WAR Between Dale and TC

[RedboX]

opinions?

[dale]

First of all....

Im glad that Redbox has seen that this war is between ME and TC and not UKA (My group) and TC.
In fact it all began as an argument between me and Zodi over me deleting 200 roms from a lamers website, he despised this so much that he descided to have me banned in various efnet channels.
Not one to let things lie, when the lamer got all his roms back up i deleted them all again and posted nekkid pictures of zodis overweight mother on the index.html.

You see, Zodi and I have different opinions here... I beleive that roms should be available only to people who contribute to the scene, whereas what Zodi and TC stand for is ROMS-FOR-THE-LAMERS ..... their main goal is not only to give lamers access to all the roms but to deliver them fast.
This really isnt on... Lamers DO NOT contribute to the scene and as such should be excluded... EVERYONE has the opertunity to contribute to this scene, even if you cant dump roms or code tools you can write articles or a website or ANYTHING... but take a look in the two TC owned channels #N64roms and the #N***** DCC one and all you will see is lamers bitching and moaning,,,, "Bung should hurry and Crack JFG with SAVE !!" one ignorant fool writes... "Where can i download wrestling ROMS... FAST CABLE ONLY !!!FTP PREFERED!!! " Screaaams another.

Fair enough, although they dont deserve it they are going to end up with the roms eventually anyway... but why go out of your way to give them to them Zodi? , they should have to search and work hard for their free roms and not have them handed to them on a silver, TC engraved, plate. The reason zodi does this is to win the vote of the LAMER, and fuck knows... there is plenty of them, the lamers see zodi as their king and its official... ZODI IS KING OF LAMERS... yes the biggest lamer of the lot.


Anyway.... not satisfied with keeping this war between me and him he decidied to involve various TC members (Badmonkey, Jerk, ^Tuff (haha 2Tuff4J00 U IDIOT) and of course not forgeting Hyjinx) ..... he got them to make sure i was slandered, banned, flamed and nuked everywhere i went on efnet. By doing such he converted a war between me and him into a war between me and TC.

To be honest Im really glad that i fell out with TC because it has made me aware of what they are really like. Oh.. at first they seemed ok... releasing all those roms and all... but now i see what they really are.... EVIL !!. They are the most ignorant and arrogant group of people you could ever have the displeasure of coming across... when Hyjinx and Zodi can be bothered to take their heads out of their arses all they do is go around shouting "TC OWNZ J00" ,,,,
Ill tell you this.... evem 100 release doesnt make you elite... your status in the scene will allways stay the same..... TC = LAMERS.

Now that I have UKA, Zodi felt it neceserry to turn this into a UKA vs TC war... which is funny since ulinke Zodi I made sure that the rest of my group kept a nutral stance... but Zodi had to do the lamest thing of all...

#uka .. our efnet channel was taken over by Zodi / Hyjinx and zodis bots were placed in the channel. Our bots were bought by Sweed from Madeira Games... who is VERY closely linked with Zodi, i just wonder why the bots went down ever so conveiniently for zodi to take it over,

<Zodii> remember whos box the bots run off
(eg Madeira games Linux box)
This is just petty coming from a 30 year old man (Wayne / Zodi).

Im not making an accusation here, that of course would be slander, but draw your own conclusions and Ill certainly make sure I find out the truth from Maddy on his return from Hong Kong.


What i also find ludicrous is that he does FUCK ALL in TC, not one single thing.... appart from suck his suppliers cocks more than likely.

<Lu|g|> u really do nothing in TC, right?
<Zodi> hahahaha
<Zodi> does it appear that way?
<Lu|g|> very much so
<Lu|g|> what do you do then?
<Zodi> i guess i do nothing then
<Zodi> not that it matters anyway

one word describes TC / Zodi ...... NOTHING, they are nothing.

Lu|g| - UK ALLiANCE - Im s0 TUFF 4 J00 dat I OWNZ J00 http://www.dextrose.com/ubb/wink.gif

[This message has been edited by dale (edited 10-15-1999).]

[^TuFF]

2 incorrect facts, #n64r*** isn`t owned by TC and i aint a member of TC not that the rest of your points are correct anyhow.

And as for sweeds bots, i admin that box, and no one tampered with sweeds bots, i checked logs. If this aint to your satisfaction, i can deluser sweed and he will get a refund.

Also, please refrain from slandering Madeira Games in any of your posts, this had nothing what so ever to do with MG.



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.:[ ^TuFF - 2tUFF4j00 ]:.

[kdogg]

Dale seems to have a smart ass comment for everything, and everyone that posts stuff one Dextroses now days, owell life goes on...
Maybe if we all pretend he is not here, and dont say anything about all the stuff he says and posts he would stop, then again maybe not, hehe i dont really care eather way...

And as for your post about my flashrom post dale, i dont care if u think i made a ass out of myself, or not, and i dont think anyone else does eather, I bet they dont care about my puncuation eather http://www.dextrose.com/ubb/smile.gif They must have been able to read it, they posted replies...

[kdogg]

O ya and for the topic, WAR Between Dale and TC, Dale just argues too much, TC is a GREAT GROUP, one of the best.... i could care about the so called war, someone just needs to take Dale out and get him high or drunk or something so he lightens up http://www.dextrose.com/ubb/smile.gif

[KLoNE]

Why dont you let TC do their thing, and you do your thing? I dont even understand what its all about...
It is about the "lamers" getting the roms? Who decided you were elite? Why should you get the roms? You shouldnt even care, you are getting all the roms you want, if TC did that you could be sure you wouldnt be getting their releases. If you really feel that way then release your dumps privately to all the people you feel arent lamers, see how well that works.
Is it about their attitude? Granted some of them have attitudes, but they usually dont show it unless provoked in some way. Wouldnt you be annoyed if someone from another group critisized everything you do? You even got on their back for releaseing a beta!! You have got to be the only one who didnt like it, and mainly for a reason that didnt even concern you (if it was digitally figerprinted thats their prob, enjoy the damn release!). You hate them? Fine, im sure your not the only one... but you are the only one who constantly bickers with them in public, and you are usually the one who starts it i might add.
Is it because he has friends that back him up? Maybe if you didnt come across as such a jackass people might befriend you and back you up.
Is it because of something else? IT DOESNT MATTER! Just stop attacking them and they will stop attacking you. Maybe u might even get into the chans u have been banned from (thats a HUGE maybe). Have fun, dont take everything so damn seriously, you are fighting over Nintendo games for god sakes.

I got way to much time on my hands.... http://www.dextrose.com/ubb/wink.gif

Get N or get out!!

[dale]

" Also, please refrain from slandering Madeira Games in any of your posts, this had nothing what so ever to do with MG. "

OK, I was NOT slandering Madeira, I just find it strange that Sweeds bots go down ever so conveniently for Zodi to steal the channel. Surely you can see why im suspicious.

"It is about the "lamers" getting the roms? Who decided you were elite? Why should you get the roms?"

No one said Im elite, and of course, im certainly not. But have done my best in the past few months to put something back, I just resent lamers that leech and rape the scene... as I said... EVERYONE can put something back.

Lu|g

[Schweino]

Dale, you little kiddo, just shut up and grow up.



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=Schweino=

I'm not suffering from insanity,
I'm enjoying every minute of it!

[Hectic]

I don't want to be any part of this stupid shit, so dale, please take me out of your group:3( I guess i'm being sort of "lame" scince you gave me access intergal but I have to admit that I never did like you. When I talked to you on n64roms I didn't know lu|g| was dale, but you seemed pretty cool but the truth is that you do post stupid shit here like that "Let's kill Pokeboy" topic. So sorry man, i'm gonna' be independent if anything.

Piece:3)-|-<

[Sweed]

I would just like to make an apologie to Madeira Games to what luigi said.

The thing about the channel being taken over had nothing to do with them or TuFF and bringing them into the arguement was wrong and was not necessary.
I know what happened with the channel and Mr Games played no part in it. It is wrong to slate a reputable (i think thats how you spell it) Company over somthing as small as this.

[Sweed]

and i would like to add Madeira Games sent me my V64 in 2 days and my Austin Powers figure AND my Action Replay Carts. definately Numero Uno (followed Closely by Console King heheheheh)

[Sweed]

Lui/Dale i wanna say i think its bout time all this stopped, I been talking to Zodi for a bit nmow and found him a sound bloke along with TuFF and Mr games, now I aint bitching at ya im just saying, that the Starcraft Beta was not distroed by TC, it was upped to NIL and then distroed from there, soon enough it was on DCC Bots which were not TC's im not sticking up for them im just correcting your posts as im getting in a lot of Crap over this when i dont wanna, and the channel well they didnt fuck my bots i had a dud one which was opped and nothing else was and it died and de get re-opped so the chan was opless and they took it ( I dunno why) but they didnt really fuck it up , apart from SClub7 for some reason that died but it had nothing to do with TuFF MG or Zodi (Zodi does not have access to do it) I asked Hyjinx for channel back and .. he gave it back so I hold nothing agaisnt them as i explained the channel was 'mine', soz dale/lui but it had to be said.

Sweed's Final Thought

By this i am saying all this crap shit bickering whicjh bores me to buggery should stop

[Zodi]

okay. i am only making a statement here for a couple of reasons... i spoke to sweed is one and the other is this topic has been deleted and can only be accessed with the correct addy. Not to mention the fact that everything dale said was fabricated and only said to cause more shit. shit sticks unfortunatly. atleast most ppl seem to have the sense to notice that. i think we are all sick of him. why the topic was taken down could be attributed to a few reasons and i wont go into them. but lets face it, dale was copping a beating. mg should never have been brought into it.. and those logs that he pasted were taken right out of context and dale knows it. the first one talking about " whos box it was" well. i laughed because you see. dale was using my nick on irc. he neglected to mention that and even doctored the logs to suit. i asked him why he had my nick and he said something about it keeping him awake and enjoying it. he then threatened to use sweeds bots to hold my nick so i couldnt use it anymore. this is from a guy i have hardly talked to in a month. he is on his own witchhunt and i have enjoyed watching all his lies. hell, even his own members are leaving because of his shit. i liked klones post very much. if anything this blew up in dales face as everyone clearly were flaming him for his shit. it has become boring and why i havent replied since. sweed is a very nice guy and we have spoken as i have said before. he had no idea what was going on and agrees that dales actions affected him and made him look bad. the second past was true to an extent, i did say all that. i did even wonder why he asked, you see, i was in his channel trying to stop all this stuff, i was reasonable and trying to work out exactly what his problem is so we could solve it once and for all. i didnt realise he would throw it back in my face again unprovocted. yeah, he is banned from some channels on efnet
he has also been unbanned as well but never stops his crap and gets banned again. i have run out of ideas on how to solve this so we have just chosen to ignore it as it seems no matter how many times i hold up my hand in peace to stop this it just gets thrown back. his own members dont like it as do the members of TC. as for us releasing to the public. yeah we do and we have copped a lot of flack for it. but you see.. with the beta we did things differently. we only put it on one private ftp, you could not get it from anywhere else. in less than 24 hours it was on usenet and on dcc bots.. not ours. we had nothing to do with it being spread at all. this in itself should tell you that it dont matter where the rom gets put it gets out. we are not doing anything any different than any other group. so to everyone who thinks we still do that you have been proven wrong, even your releases get to the public just as fast. this isnt even dale vs zodi. i only got sucked into fighting in this forum and quite frankly made a fool out of myself. it was stupid to lower myself to dales level. i never asked my friends to stick up for me either let alone all the other ppl that dont like dale. klone is very correct dale. if you had some friends they might stick up for you too but they know youre full of lies. even your own group has deserted you in this instance. you need to grow up and just stop this shit as it is achieving nothing. we never said we were leet, that is a title you bestowed on us. we have never been about that and if anything defended anything being said to define us as that in the first place. we dont care who releases what as long as its released and i have been quick to praise you on your few releases. you seem to find a problem with everything we do. go figure huh. ow well we cant please everyone. you need some bog roll, not for long tho, youre slowly going thru the entire scene making enemies. it will run out when you have finished using ppl for what they have or they work you out and get sick of you first. i still remember you wanting to be in TC and helping me with a ezine ( yeah you got that idea off me) and even your web page you made to try and get yourself ops in #n64roms. if it dont go your way you slander ppl and move on, one day that will run out m8. i have tried plenty of times to make peace but you just throw it back in my face. so this is my last post on any matter. everyone knows the truth anyway. i am merely being weak by replying but it needs to be said.

enuff said.

[mikeæaway]

Just shut up now! http://www.dextrose.com/ubb/smile.gif

at this time I would like to make a little montague,

put the hip in the hip hop and you know it dont stop so rock it to the rock back now back to the hip hop and the hippy hop and you know it just dont stop,

Thanks

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just shut up already

[Just Some Lamer !]

hmm Thought all Information was meant to be free ?? maybe that not the goal of things in life now ? ;-(
Its coming up to Y2K and we still act like Kids ? / Enough is Enough /
Scene's come and go / But Stupid Child Like Rants and Raves will always seem to remain

Give it a rest Lugi..
my 3yr old son behaves better than U !

[^Duff]

Bah. N64 Sucks.

Dale is a fucking moron.

TC is a sick group, but should merge with NDT http://www.dextrose.com/ubb/wink.gif.

Everyone Go see FIGHT CLUB!!!


4 Real. Duff.

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NDT Roxx j00! (#ndt on efnet)
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[This message has been edited by ^Duff (edited 10-16-1999).]

[dale]

aren't NDT dead? http://www.dextrose.com/ubb/smile.gif

NDT tried to get Konsoul (of releasing JFG before AGS fame) to join. Nuff said.

[^Duff]

Awwwwwww
is Dale (or should i say Luigi) upset that all his little UKA members are leaving him?????

toooooo baddd...........


Oh, and by the way, there's a difference between Idle and Dead. We're not close to dead, and you might be in for a little supprise soon.

Lates you lame Bitch.



[This message has been edited by ^Duff (edited 10-16-1999).]

[KONsOUL]

hmm.. any1 want to see luigi / dale`s leet website!!!!! http://fly.to/dale

btw lui.. i was always nice to u .. help u out and stuff... well what a mistke that was .. u seem to think u are someting special but you are a typical moaning stuipd i love myslef scott north of the boarder twat... every think u have done for last few weeks shows how much of an ass u are.. you r such a hippocrit(spelt wrong) as well.. eg.... nbc relese a bad shadowman dump .. fix it quick.. but what was your reaction....a big post saying LAME follwed by flaming a great group.. then your so called group release a bad michael owen soccer and you try and pass it off saying no problem......and u call tc releasing a 3 month early beta lame..HAHAHAHAHAHAHA what a twat

[dale]

in #UKA

<KONsOUL> we dumped jfg first.. but did not put on ftp
<Lu|g|> hahaha
<KONsOUL> it was on ave64 before ags got it!!!!
<KONsOUL> FUCK OOF
<_rza_> haha
<_rza_> yeah right
<Lu|g|> lol
<Lu|g|> hehe
<KONsOUL> well why do u think more people have our dump than ags`s
<Lu|g|> ASS
<_rza_> your dump?
<_rza_> dude
<_rza_> are u retarded
<KONsOUL> whatever
<Lu|g|> heh
<KONsOUL> a yank had a deal with me... he buyed.. and dumped/ uped as soon as he got back

in #N64SC***

<_rza_> KONsOUL: why aren't u claiming u dumped jfg in this channel?
<_rza_> if u wanna talk shit
<_rza_> i find it funny how some rom site can release a game
<_rza_> doesn't mean u get jack shit for credit
<_rza_> especially on a webpage
<KONsOUL> i know
<KONsOUL> dont want credit
<Lu|g|> well?
<_rza_> so
<_rza_> you are talking shit then
<Lu|g|> State the facts please konsoul!
<KONsOUL> jsut a few dood wanted to dl it so we put it up
<jumanji> yeah he released it about 1hr after ags
<Lu|g|> hehe
<_rza_> after he leeched it
<_rza_> and upload to a webpage
<jumanji> maybe more, no he probably got his own dump
<_rza_> i love webpage releases
<KONsOUL> differnt crc so ther ya go
<jumanji> but he did it already knowing it was out
<jumanji> he just claimed to be doing it cuz of slow distro
<_rza_> heh
<jumanji> well usually things take more then 1 hr to distro
<Lu|g|> different crc?
<Lu|g|> u dumped it on a jr? http://www.dextrose.com/ubb/wink.gif
<_rza_> heh
<KONsOUL> but both boot
<KONsOUL> no v64
<KONsOUL> both roms work
<_rza_> hmm
<Lu|g|> hmmm
<_rza_> so you are lying
<KONsOUL> it was z-64 i mean
<KONsOUL> doh
<_rza_> sure
<_rza_> change the story....
<KONsOUL> dl the rom yourself,, u will see its z64 format
<jumanji> no he was z64 before
<_rza_> uh
<_rza_> anyone can flip a rom
<Lu|g|> from Konsouls site.............
<Lu|g|> NEW ROM AGAIN
<Lu|g|> here we are with the oficial release now!
<Lu|g|> [Jet_Force_Gemini [256mbit/USA/AGS]
<Lu|g|> uploaded by _Halfelf.... thanx!
<Lu|g|> NEW ROM
<Lu|g|> JET FORCE GEMINNI(kor-jfg.rom)
<Lu|g|> this is NOT the AGS rom.. but one dumped by KORBIN.. which we got hold of first!.. so thanks to kor for beating slow ass distribution
<_rza_> ahahahahah
<KONsOUL> well it did
<KONsOUL> BAH
<_rza_> just cuz its in z64 format
<_rza_> hahah
<_rza_> slow ass distro
<_rza_> as long as its on major ftps
<KONsOUL> whatever
<Lu|g|> #n64dcc - Konsoul WHQ
<_rza_> gahahahha
<KONsOUL> hehe
<Lu|g|> http://www.dextrose.com/ubb/wink.gif yaka yaka hehe
<KONsOUL> oh well .. even lamers need sleep ... bye
<_rza_> have fun
*** Quits: KONsOUL (HMM.. http://come.to/ave****)

[Sweed]

i give up

[Sweed]

Would anybody agree with me by saying:
We could have a real pearler of a Jerry Springer show on hour hands

[Vertigo]

Would anyone agree with me in saying let's just ignore all dale's comments and wait for him to fuck off so we can use these forums for what they are intended?
If you need to argue with dale/luigi/whatever then go on irc and do it, then he can log it and read it over and over to his small brain's content.
What kind of sad fucker logs an irc session and then quotes from it? Dale does.
So I might be expressing a fairly universal opinion when I say "Fuck Off Dale, and don't come back."
We don't need people like you, you are worse than the 'lamers' that you say are killing the scene that you've so lovingly created.
At least 'lamers' dont go around spreading lies and bullshit, they just get the games and enjoy them, which was the point of them in the first place.

[Opium]

Couldnt have said it better myself Vertigo.

[RedboX]

I wish I'd never started this now...